2. I fondly recall another Newark "Y" steam room discussion with Herman Roth around 1964. He told me with great pride that his son had recently gotten a $5,000 advance from his publisher for a book that he had not yet started to write.

He told me the publisher must have had great trust in his son to give him so much money for an unwritten book.

A third Heath Club member, sweating with us in the steam room, joined in our chat by telling us that his son also was an author. He told us his son was a bioscientist and had written a book on his research that would be published shortly.

In the course of our conversation, I discovered that the scientific book would be published by my then current employer, American Elsevier Publishing Company, and that I would therefore be responsible for marketing it in the United States.